Wisdom of Captain Roderick Blaine

You need to read America Alone by Mark Stien.

It made sense to allow Iraqi weapons scientists to emigrate after the first Gulf War, but not the mass exodus. Ofcourse most Muslim immigrants to Great Britain ate not from Iraq.

The damning of the crusaders is very politically correct, but one should not forget that Muslims invaded Spain and were stopped from conquering all of Europe at the Gates of Vienna. The Muslim world was more enlightened than Europe during the Middle Ages nay because they had dhimini Jews and Christians contributing to their society.

Michael Riddell wrote:To further elaborate on the problem faced by the UK because of the radicalisation of some the young male muslim population, here's some links:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-27974840

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27968963

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27952874

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2664118/MAX-HASTINGS-Yes-West-fought-Muslim-world-centuries-But-Islam-accept-blame-todays-bloody-chaos.html

The saying "you make your bed and you lie in it" springs to mind. Whether this would've happened without foreign intervention in the area is hard to say. It all depends on whether the Muslim hierarchy in the UK can be truly effective in combating radicalisation in their communities. So far they've played the blame game. It could easily be that Islam is going through both it's own equivalent of the "Medieval Crusades" and the "Thirty Years War" at the same time.

It makes emigration sound attractive.

BTW, don't eat so much popcorn. It won't do your Calorie intake much good!

Mike.

namelessfly wrote:You need to read America Alone by Mark Stien.

It made sense to allow Iraqi weapons scientists to emigrate after the first Gulf War, but not the mass exodus. Ofcourse most Muslim immigrants to Great Britain ate not from Iraq.

The damning of the crusaders is very politically correct, but one should not forget that Muslims invaded Spain and were stopped from conquering all of Europe at the Gates of Vienna. The Muslim world was more enlightened than Europe during the Middle Ages nay because they had dhimini Jews and Christians contributing to their society.

Yeah, it's a bit unusual for Hastings to be PC, but I think he was treading softly. He does make a very good point about Islam seemingly being stuck in some form of weird medieval stasis.

Unlike our political leaders, the British people aren't really stupid. Self centered, normally half-drunk and semi-stuck in the past, yes, but not stupid. It's taken people voting for UKIP to finally get through our politicians thick skulls that they need to do something about preserving British culture.

Moving on, it is an irony that during parts of the middle ages, it was Christianity that was the most intolerant. Hence the Crusades, though I'm firmly convinced religion wasn't the only factor there. I smell trade and commerce lurking in the shadows.

There was a series on BBC2 last year called "The Story of the Jews" presented by the historian Simon Schama. I believe it's been shown on PBS over your side of the pond, but here's a link to Episode Two on Dailymotion:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1679wl_the-story-of-the-jews-among-believers-ep2_creation

It roughly an hour long and doesn't seem to be flagged as region specific.

Although Schama's Jewish and a declared Zionist, he does seem to give credit where it's due. The Islamic states did tolerate Jews more readily than the Christian ones, but only if they paid their taxes and didn't rock the boat. What has always baffled me is that although Christianity moved on and evolved, Islam seemed to go backwards and become more intolerant.

Mike.

For a good take on the crusades, http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades_(BBC_TV_series)

Annachie wrote:For a good take on the crusades, http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades_(BBC_TV_series)

Yeah, managed to catch some of that - good series!

Moving back to Iraq itself:

http://www.janes.com/article/39550/iraqi-abrams-losses-revealed

Ouch.

The US had to give Iraq monkey models for obvious reasons, but it's still hard on the crews. Not a good way to go if there was anyone inside.

Mike.

More than likely these tanks and helicopters were killed with weapons that the Obama administration was supplying to Jihadists out of the Benghazi "consulate" as part of an operation code named "Zero Footprint."

I am still trying to decide if Hillary Clinton's "fall" and subsequent "blood clot" which coincided with a fire in the State Department near her office might be a cover story for injuries she might have sustained from a beating that was intended to intimidate or kill her.

I hope American Abrahms tanks are better armored than these. All of our tanks are being remanufactured. I don't trust the Obama administration to restore or upgrade the DU armor rather than downgrade it for something politically correct. (note, depleted Uranium is NOT a radiological hazard. It is chemically toxic but almost all heavy metals are.)

Michael Riddell wrote:

Annachie wrote:For a good take on the crusades, http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades_(BBC_TV_series)

Yeah, managed to catch some of that - good series!

Moving back to Iraq itself:

http://www.janes.com/article/39550/iraqi-abrams-losses-revealed

Ouch.

The US had to give Iraq monkey models for obvious reasons, but it's still hard on the crews. Not a good way to go if there was anyone inside.

Mike.

namelessfly wrote:The damning of the crusaders is very politically correct, but one should not forget that Muslims invaded Spain and were stopped from conquering all of Europe at the Gates of Vienna. The Muslim world was more enlightened than Europe during the Middle Ages nay because they had dhimini Jews and Christians contributing to their society.

Crusade: 1) A war instigated for alleged religious end
2) A vigorous campaign for political, social, or religious change
Oxford New English Dictionary


”Crusaders” is one of the favourite epithets of Islamic radicals. It’s true that it’s mainly used against Western values and people.
The curious thing is that the spread of their own religion Islam is the result of one of the most successful Crusades in history. What else can be said it? By fire, sword and yes faith, it had within 150 years from its start in the Arabian desert had spread from the borders of France into Asia Minor and India, and in later years to the gates of Vienna.

Everyone loves a parade!

http://www.darksidemedia.net/isis-holds ... -vehicles/

The executions of prisoners are a nice touch.

Just remember, the guys executing their prisoners are the same guys that Obama and Hillary were recruiting and arming for the Arab Spring.

Need More Popcorn.

namelessfly wrote:Just remember, the guys executing their prisoners are the same guys that Obama and Hillary were recruiting and arming for the Arab Spring.
Need More Popcorn.

One would have thought that Afghanistan would have cured the US and others of involvement in local insurgencies.
Seems like no one learns from past mistakes.