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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by Annachie   » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:26 am

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There's no abortion case before SCOTUS from what I remember.
There are some working their way through the lower court system but they wouldn't show up until next year.

If they are not just trying to stack the court on general principles, or out of fear of the mid terms, then the only case that would support such haste is Gamble v United States which has possible aplications viz federal pardons and state charges.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:52 am

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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:05 am

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Good article on one of the other Kavanaugh accussers.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex-boy ... everything
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:08 am

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The E wrote:
Daryl wrote:The whole idea of appointing partisan judges just wouldn't be acceptable in many places, but that's your system so home rules apply.


Kavanaugh openly declaring that he sees himself as a victim of a conspiracy would normally be disqualifying enough.

Also, this is your reminder that the only reason Kavanaugh is being pushed through this process as hard as he is is because there's a case coming up in the SCOTUS docket that could influence the legality of abortions in the US. Everything about this process, going as far back as McConnell deciding that Obama shouldn't nominate a judge because his remaining time in office is limited, is so blatantly partisan that it hurts.

But what can you expect from a party like the GOP, which can't win elections unless it gets to decide who the electorate is....


It is just awful that the GOP insists that the only people who get to vote have to be alive, American citizens, and can vote only once in each election.

It is a Chicago Democrat tradition that every November the dead rise up out of their graves to vote.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:15 am

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Daryl wrote:Fly, The first time you were banned this foreigner went to bat for you with Dukk to get you readmitted. Within a month or two you attacked a number of people including me and were banned again. Don't let history repeat itself, as I for one enjoy your commentary. With only smr and Imaginos to argue the conservative side it was obviously unfair, and you do at least bring a few brain cells along for the discussion.
I remember how you spoke of your christmas tree plantation, your two free ranging doberman protecting it, plus your Barrett 50 cal. But for politics we could well be drinking buddies. I also remember you had a pacemaker fitted, and I also have one after my leukemia turned auto immune and destroyed my heart nerves. Much in common.




Thanks for the conciliatory comments.

Take a look at the topics for the polutics board. Who starts the threads? Who makes the most posts on the politics board?
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:33 am

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Daryl wrote:Smr, I'm from a similar (but different in some ways) culture and here is my take on this.
The whole idea of appointing partisan judges just wouldn't be acceptable in many places, but that's your system so home rules apply.
I agree that few people could sustain a full examination of all their activities while being a student over 30 years ago, and thus the whole Democrat attack is unfair.
However if Kavanaugh had just said right at the start, "That was over thirty years ago, like many students I drank too much at times, and I was a bit gormless with women. If I made anyone uncomfortable making a clumsy pass, I now apologise", then people would have said fair enough.
However the current day mature Kavanaugh showed very poor judgement trying to deny that he even drank in those days, or could have been a drunken leech like most young men of that age. As more and more classmates come out pointing out his lies, it becomes more and more apparent that he is not of good character. Mind you looking at your President it does appear that is not a problem for some supporters.



I think that you are actually making valid points here. Kavanaugh is being confronted by allegations that are impossible to refute because they occurred so very long ago. More importantly; if the allegations are only slightly exaggerated then the actions that Kavanaugh are accussed of are rather common carnal (I will not dignify the alleged incident as romantic) faux paux that most adolescent males in American culture experience.

Unfortunately; we are now living in the MeToo era when past actions are now being subjected to after the fact criminalization or at least condemnation. Harvey Weinstein appears to be a rapist, but the practice of young actresses (and it appears actors) trading sex for consideration in a movie goes back to the beginnings of the film industry. The women who should complain the most are the ones who didnt get the part because they wouldnt put out.

To my mind the allegations based on "recovered memory" are at very best highly suspect. They become far more suspect when this woman names her alleged abuser only after he gets appointed to SCOCOTS. Senator Feinstein sitting on the Ford letter then leaking it at the eleventh hour was such a blatantly calculated procedural manauver as to totally discredit it.

As to the partisanship of SCOTUS, this became apparent way back in the 1850s when the Dredd Scott decision that held that African slaves could not be recognized as citizens was handed down.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:53 am

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Kavenaugh sex allegations appear to be payback for the Republicans delaying the appointment of a SCOTUS Judge to replace Scalia.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... y.amp.html

Given his age, death by natural causes was probable. However; given the political context the body should have been examined by a physician with blood drawn for toxicology screening before cause of death was pronounced. Delaying that nomination probably avoided a serious Constitional crisis.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by gcomeau   » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:25 am

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:
I think that you are actually making valid points here. Kavanaugh is being confronted by allegations that are impossible to refute because they occurred so very long ago. More importantly; if the allegations are only slightly exaggerated then the actions that Kavanaugh are accussed of are rather common carnal (I will not dignify the alleged incident as romantic) faux paux that most adolescent males in American culture experience.


As has been repeatedly pointed out to you the actions he is accused of by Ford are:

*Forcing her into a bedroom
*Holding her down
*Covering her mouth and turning up music to drown out her cries so nobody would hear her
*Trying to forcibly strip her against her will before she escaped.

As you have repeatedly refused to address the fact that that is absolutely clear attempted rape and repeatedly declared it to be normal adolescent boy behavior I am now compelled to ask... should we all be reading your posts as a confession to being a rapist, or to being an acquaintance of rapists for whom you have covered up their crimes because you consider them acceptable behavior towards women?


And that isn't even bringing in Swetnick's sworn accusation that Kavanaugh participated in an incident where she was drugged and gang raped.


So what is it? Explain your continued insistence that rape is a normal aspect of teenage boy behavior, because it sure as fuck wasn't where I grew up.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by Annachie   » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:57 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Kavenaugh sex allegations appear to be payback for the Republicans delaying the appointment of a SCOTUS Judge to replace Scalia.


If that were the case, if it was pure payback, then it would be Neil Gorsuch we'd be talking about.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by smr   » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:16 pm

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Point of Order: Where is the proof. All witnesses including her best friend do not remember the party or corroborate her story. She does not know the day or where the house was. She has refused to turn over the therapist's notes that mentions this memory. She has refused to discuss the incident with FBI investigators. Kavanaugh's mother (the Judge) ruled against Doctor Rose family (Mother and Father) in a bankruptcy proceeding. Fourth, who does Doctor Ford work besides Stanford. She is in charge of the Stanford internship for the CIA. What else does she do for the CIA. That means Gcomeau, you will have to dig into her white papers. Here in America, a person is presumed innocent until found guilty in a court of law. Fifth, Doctor Rose never has filed charges for Sexual Assault in Maryland. (No Investigation can begin without Doctor Rose of reporting the incident within the State of Maryland). Sixth, no DA would take up this case without certain basic elements being met which by Doctor Rose's testimony does not know or recall. Seventh, Why did the Demoncrats not raise this during Confirmation process. Why did the Demoncrats sit on this issue for about 2 months. I have plenty of other questions regarding this case. Judge Kavanaugh will be the next SCOTUS.

KEEP CALM AND TRUST GOD!

gcomeau wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:
I think that you are actually making valid points here. Kavanaugh is being confronted by allegations that are impossible to refute because they occurred so very long ago. More importantly; if the allegations are only slightly exaggerated then the actions that Kavanaugh are accussed of are rather common carnal (I will not dignify the alleged incident as romantic) faux paux that most adolescent males in American culture experience.


As has been repeatedly pointed out to you the actions he is accused of by Ford are:

*Forcing her into a bedroom
*Holding her down
*Covering her mouth and turning up music to drown out her cries so nobody would hear her
*Trying to forcibly strip her against her will before she escaped.

As you have repeatedly refused to address the fact that that is absolutely clear attempted rape and repeatedly declared it to be normal adolescent boy behavior I am now compelled to ask... should we all be reading your posts as a confession to being a rapist, or to being an acquaintance of rapists for whom you have covered up their crimes because you consider them acceptable behavior towards women?


And that isn't even bringing in Swetnick's sworn accusation that Kavanaugh participated in an incident where she was drugged and gang raped.


So what is it? Explain your continued insistence that rape is a normal aspect of teenage boy behavior, because it sure as fuck wasn't where I grew up.
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