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Re: Fake Bombs?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:37 pm

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Joat42 wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:..snip..
The minimally reliable information available suggests that these plastic pipes might have been filled with "pyrotechnic powder" which could be anything from black powder to flash powder used for theatre productions. I would not say the devices are harmless because they could start a fire, but it appears that they are NOT viable explosives.

As someone that have worked with pyrotechnic powders I know they can remove your limbs as readily as black powder or explosives. The explosives course which is mandatory for handling pyrotechnic powders here had some very graphic demonstrations what these powders can do to bodies (in this case, pig cadavers filled with bags of fake blood).

The most common substance used in pipe-bombs are actually flash powder according to ATF and they are certainly very viable as explosive devices.


I believe that I found your source on ATF data. You are correct on the most common composition of explosive devices being flash powder pyrotechnic mixtures. Pyrotechnic mixures usually contain black powder or recognized explosives that are subjected to ATF regulation. Flash powders can be viable as "explosive devices" If subjected to confinement to boost deflageration velocity. Of course dry ice can be an explosive to, especially when confined in steel pipe.
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Re: Fake Bombs?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:38 pm

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First news on the suspect is that he is a Republican. He also appears to be a soccer fanatic.
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Re: Fake Bombs?
Post by gcomeau   » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:01 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:First news on the suspect is that he is a Republican. He also appears to be a soccer fanatic.


Yeah... "soccer fan" is the part that stands out when looking at the guy's vehicle.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... =all&w=948
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Re: Fake Bombs?
Post by gcomeau   » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:19 pm

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And to put this to rest, the FBI just confirmed in their press conference that no they were not fake bombs.
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Re: Fake Bombs?
Post by Joat42   » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:39 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:..snip..
Of course dry ice can be an explosive to, especially when confined in steel pipe.

Of which I can attest to since I have (dumb) friend that once thought it would we cool to put dry ice in a soda bottle so he could smuggle it into a night club. We all pointed out how dumb an idea it was.

He put it down his pants and it eventually exploded in the queue. He was lucky enough not to remove himself from the gene-pool, but plastic shrapnel in the thigh and scrotum is apparently a very good teacher.

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Re: Fake Bombs?
Post by Michael Everett   » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:57 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:First news on the suspect is that he is a Republican. He also appears to be a soccer fanatic.


Yeah... "soccer fan" is the part that stands out when looking at the guy's vehicle.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... =all&w=948

Just looked at the picture... WTF? :shock:
How is a vehicle with that many window-stickers road-legal? Even the forward (side) windows are covered! Is the windscreen the only thing left clear?
The inside of that vehicle must be almost pitch black with all those stickers... although I guess it would allow for mid-day snoozing...

Edit - The drivers-side window is actually clear according to the picture in the BBC news article. Still, it must have some worrying blind-spots...
...possibly like its driver...
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Re: Fake Bombs?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:41 pm

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Joat42 wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:..snip..
Of course dry ice can be an explosive to, especially when confined in steel pipe.

Of which I can attest to since I have (dumb) friend that once thought it would we cool to put dry ice in a soda bottle so he could smuggle it into a night club. We all pointed out how dumb an idea it was.

He put it down his pants and it eventually exploded in the queue. He was lucky enough not to remove himself from the gene-pool, but plastic shrapnel in the thigh and scrotum is apparently a very good teacher.



Why smuggle dry ice into a nightclub?
Did hr think that having the bottle rupture in the club would be cool?
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Re: Fake Bombs?
Post by Joat42   » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:18 pm

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Joat42 wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:..snip..
Of course dry ice can be an explosive to, especially when confined in steel pipe.

Of which I can attest to since I have (dumb) friend that once thought it would we cool to put dry ice in a soda bottle so he could smuggle it into a night club. We all pointed out how dumb an idea it was.

He put it down his pants and it eventually exploded in the queue. He was lucky enough not to remove himself from the gene-pool, but plastic shrapnel in the thigh and scrotum is apparently a very good teacher.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:Why smuggle dry ice into a nightclub?
Did hr think that having the bottle rupture in the club would be cool?
I will refrain from making jokes about the intelligence of Swedes. You can find people on the left side of thebell curve in any ethnic group.

He was going to put it in his drinks to get a cool effect. We all have "that" friend that does stupid shit.

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Re: Fake Bombs?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:02 pm

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I hope that this link copies correctly.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... -ied-plot/

The charges are not consistant with attacks using explosive devices. The charges are consistant with incindiary devices. Incindiaries can be deadly but the use of such confirms the lack of expertise.
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Re: Fake Bombs?
Post by Annachie   » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:45 am

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You haven't actually read the charges have you, just the low balled conservativetreehouse thing you linked too.
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