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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by smr   » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:27 pm

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Robin says, "Holy Smoke Batman...the Chicago crime rate has dropped 26% since they started allowing citizens to carry concealed handguns." Batman replies, "Well Robin when the law abiding citizens can defend themselves, the playing field is leveled with the criminals! City hall should take note here in Gotham and pass similar laws!" :lol:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/04/20/a-gunman-starts-shooting-at-a-crowd-in-chicago-thats-when-a-concealed-carrying-uber-driver-from-little-italy-showed-up/
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by Donnachaidh   » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:39 pm

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smr wrote:Robin says, "Holy Smoke Batman...the Chicago crime rate has dropped 26% since they started allowing citizens to carry concealed handguns." Batman replies, "Well Robin when the law abiding citizens can defend themselves, the playing field is leveled with the criminals! City hall should take note here in Gotham and pass similar laws!" :lol:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/04/20/a-gunman-starts-shooting-at-a-crowd-in-chicago-thats-when-a-concealed-carrying-uber-driver-from-little-italy-showed-up/


Your link is to a news story about an Uber driver with a concealed carry permit, not about the crime rate in Chicago. It does not say anything about your statement. A brief Google search returns a story from the Washington times claiming crime rates dropped (different number than the one you provided). And their conclusion, along with yours ignores the fact that correlation does not imply causation see below.

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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by Invictus   » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:27 pm

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Correlation does not equal causation... it just points suggestively while mouthing "Over there!"

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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by Annachie   » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:09 am

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Having a little trouble but it looks to me like crimes that don't involve guns in any way are also falling, like Arson.
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by Annachie   » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:30 am

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Wow, Chicago is a dangerous place. 500 murders per 100,000 pop as opposed to 3.1 here.
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by PeterZ   » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:58 pm

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Annachie wrote:Wow, Chicago is a dangerous place. 500 murders per 100,000 pop as opposed to 3.1 here.

I think you are misreading the statistic. More like 500 total murders annually. That's still bad enough. At 500 per 100,000 population Chicago would have 15,000 murders annually or more that the US national rate
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by Spacekiwi   » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:06 pm

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Although that sounds better, I still have to say: Wow. ~16 per 100,000? Auckland, with 1.4 million people in 2014, has a rate of 0.5 per 100,000.




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Annachie wrote:Wow, Chicago is a dangerous place. 500 murders per 100,000 pop as opposed to 3.1 here.

I think you are misreading the statistic. More like 500 total murders annually. That's still bad enough. At 500 per 100,000 population Chicago would have 15,000 murders annually or more that the US national rate
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by Annachie   » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:59 am

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Lol typo. Should have been 50.
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by PeterZ   » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:24 pm

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No arguments. Parts of Chicago are dangerous. Grew up just outside the city during times when the murder rates were higher still.

Spacekiwi wrote:Although that sounds better, I still have to say: Wow. ~16 per 100,000? Auckland, with 1.4 million people in 2014, has a rate of 0.5 per 100,000.

PeterZ wrote:I think you are misreading the statistic. More like 500 total murders annually. That's still bad enough. At 500 per 100,000 population Chicago would have 15,000 murders annually or more that the US national rate
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by smr   » Wed May 06, 2015 3:54 pm

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After this incident, the old veteran of WWII will be packing a .357 magnum.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/05/06/how-a-95-year-old-world-war-ii-vet-fought-back-against-a-would-be-thief-will-make-you-want-to-stand-and-salute//

Until Utopia is achieved on Earth, we should still allow law abiding citizens to carry firearms. The pistol is the equalizer between bullies or thugs and the regular citizens. My wife carries a small revolver in her purse. Believe me, she can shoot within 10 feet on a dime but after that forget about it. The reason she carries a revolver is about incident where her small stature led to her being targeted by a Thug!
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