SoS information from old data dump re Baen Bar(Spoiler?)

Knightfire wrote:I found this old data dump from a David Weber Post to Baen's Bar. Don't know if this has been discussed but it has some cool information. Gives a lot of information about the Fall of Kontovar and describes what the Sword of the South is.

Here is the link: http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/en ... essa/226/0

After reading it, I think the swordsman without a memory in Bahzell's inn is Toren, the last emperor.

Also lots of cool information Coursers and other background information.

In the end, Toren and his forces were simply overwhelmed. In the final battle, Toren and Herrick faced one another directly in hand-to-hand combat. Ultimately, Toren could not possibly have won the fight, since he was effectively the last member of his last army still on his feet. In the event, the battle between them -- which involved another artifact of the House of Ottovar [tum, te, tum, te, tum] -- not only dropped both of them but killed almost every man (and creature) of the army Herrick had brought to the ball, as well. Unfortunately, the Carnadosans still had several armies left, and Toren's had been the last army the Good Guys™ had.

fallsfromtrees wrote:At this time I believe that the textev is that there is only one wild wizard in the world - Wencit.

Blurb of SoftS wrote:Wulfra of Torfo doesn't know those answers, either, but she does know Wencit of Rūm is her implacable foe and that somehow Kenhodan is one of the weapons he intends to use against her . . . assuming she can't kill both of them first.

Knightfire wrote:I found this old data dump from a David Weber Post to Baen's Bar. Don't know if this has been discussed but it has some cool information. Gives a lot of information about the Fall of Kontovar and describes what the Sword of the South is.

Here is the link: http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/en ... essa/226/0

After reading it, I think the swordsman without a memory in Bahzell's inn is Toren, the last emperor.

Also lots of cool information Coursers and other background information.

Eagleeye wrote:
I disagree, at least if I understand the blurb of SoftS correctly:

Blurb of SoftS wrote:Wulfra of Torfo doesn't know those answers, either, but she does know Wencit of Rūm is her implacable foe and that somehow Kenhodan is one of the weapons he intends to use against her . . . assuming she can't kill both of them first.

What else can Wulfra be, aside of a goddess, of course, if not another wild wizard (or is it, in her case, a wild sorceress?) Who else would've a fighting chance against Wencit?

biochem wrote:Wencit usually challenges the wand wizards to a duel arcane by some variant of Fight a duel with me or must I slay you where you stand? Knowing that as a wand wizard the chance of winning combat is zero, if I were a wand wizard I'd try the second option. He probably would slay me where I stood, but killing someone standing there completely unresisting is an entirely different thing than killing him/her in combat so he just might not....

akira.taylor wrote:

biochem wrote:Wencit usually challenges the wand wizards to a duel arcane by some variant of Fight a duel with me or must I slay you where you stand? Knowing that as a wand wizard the chance of winning combat is zero, if I were a wand wizard I'd try the second option. He probably would slay me where I stood, but killing someone standing there completely unresisting is an entirely different thing than killing him/her in combat so he just might not....

Once he issues his challenge, he will kill the Dark Wizard. In Oath of Swords, he issues that challenge to the two Dark Wizards that have... the lady he's rescuing. One attacks him, he says "So be it," and kills them. The other gibbers in fear, he says "So be it," and kills them. (I may be a little off on details, but that was the gist.)

Really, the "fight or die where you stand" line isn't a challenge, it's a passing of sentence. ("I'm killing you - easy way or hard way?")

Knightfire wrote:I found this old data dump from a David Weber Post to Baen's Bar. Don't know if this has been discussed but it has some cool information. Gives a lot of information about the Fall of Kontovar and describes what the Sword of the South is.

Here is the link: http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/en ... essa/226/0

After reading it, I think the swordsman without a memory in Bahzell's inn is Toren, the last emperor.

Also lots of cool information Coursers and other background information.

In the end, Toren and his forces were simply overwhelmed. In the final battle, Toren and Herrick faced one another directly in hand-to-hand combat. Ultimately, Toren could not possibly have won the fight, since he was effectively the last member of his last army still on his feet. In the event, the battle between them -- which involved another artifact of the House of Ottovar [tum, te, tum, te, tum] -- not only dropped both of them but killed almost every man (and creature) of the army Herrick had brought to the ball, as well. Unfortunately, the Carnadosans still had several armies left, and Toren's had been the last army the Good Guys™ had.

So, after the last battle, Wencit -- as he and Toren had already discussed -- strafed Kontovar.