Spacekiwi wrote:You want people to protect stores? Maybe allow tasers or other non lethal defense methods to be used by the general public, and try and reduce your guns per person level. Guns as defense only really work when both the assailant and the victim are rational. if the attacker or victim is acting irrationally around the gun, the situation will only end worse off for the gun, not the better.
The thing is, a mob won't necessarily be stopped by tasers and clubs. Tasers impact one person at a time and the ones that don't shoot out, require the user to get in hand to hand range, like club users. They can also be overrun fairly easily by a good sized mob (often like a mob can overrun a police line with shields and clubs). But showing guns (pistols, rifles and/or shotguns) can make a mob rethink their looting decisions because a gun can kill -at range-. The users don't have to be in hand to hand combat range to be hurt or worse. That's why guns make an effective deterrent. Because the rioter has to decide if he/she really wants to risk being shot or killed for those rolls of toilet paper and food, or those clothes/electronics. If the Walmart had had gun armed employees outside, it would not have been looted.
The E wrote:Guns do not help in the endeavour to keep a society together. You cannot build a part of your culture on the belief that owning tools made to kill others is a fundamental and inalienable right, and expect everyone to be sane about it.
Guns are also a popular form of recreation and used for hunting. The majority of guns are -not- used in killing humans, but for more mundane purposes such as the aforementioned hunting or recreational shooting, or the gun might be a valuable piece of history and be on display. To think that guns are only for killing humans is missing how the vast majority of gun owners, who are responsible ones, use their guns.
Obama is rightwing to the rest of the world, so I dont know what you are complaining about. Step outside the US sometime, and you'll realise how lucky you are to have such a right wing leader.
To the US, he is left wing though and the US view is what counts here. At least half the country is NOT glad he is President and would have preferred to have seen him lose both elections. He seems to be burning his bridges with the half that did vote for him too, so he's not exactly a popular leader in the US anymore.