Anyone can prove that.
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smr wrote:You have to separate the question of God from religion.
Einstein most certainly believed in God
but did not believe in formal religions!
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Howard T. Map-addict
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And yet formal religions certainly exist!
Anyone can prove that. ![]() HTM
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cthia
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Cthia is indeed working on a formal proof. That, in no way, discredits what smr said. Even if I am successful at a formal proof that God absolutely exists, he still will not exist for some people. Even if GOD himself comes to Earth and introduces himself. Even if HIS SON visits us, we, some of us, will never believe. There are still certain things that one must do. Because in THE END it won't matter if we know GOD, it will only matter if GOD knows us. Lest he will tell us to depart from him for HE never knew us. Even if GOD exists, because of freedom to choose, GOD may not exist for you.
You either worship GOD or you worship Satan. I strongly pray that you allow GOD. . Last edited by cthia on Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:05 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Zakharra
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Only if you're Christian, Muslim or Jewish. |
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cthia
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On Judgment Day, you need not be Christian, Muslim, Jewish ... You need be saved. . Last edited by cthia on Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:18 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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Annachie
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Only if you're Christian, Muslim or Jewish.[/quote] More specifically, you either worship my GOD my way or you worship Satan, or at least that's the way it seems. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Zakharra
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It's kind of hard to take a book like the Bible seriously when it has been changed down through the millennium, through translations/mistranslations of several different languages, language drift and alterations by governments at the time. |
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Zakharra
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I'm not a Christian, Muslim or Jew. I do not want to be saved by them. I will make up my own mind on my beliefs. If I do not believe in the god of those religions, then the rewards or punishments of those gods means absolutely nothing to me. I would not suffer any punishment by refusing to believe (and I think it is extremely arrogant of any of them to claim to be the god of all humans. Or for their followers to claim that) because I would not fall under that deity's beliefs or powers to bless or damn. Your belief of a deity doesn't dictate what I believe: if I don't believe in your god or God, then your Satan or devil/hell will not hold any power over me.
As Imaginos1892 says, you're presenting a "false dichotomy". Much like the statement : 'when did you stop beating your wife?' Unless you refuse the premise of the question, the implication of any answer you give is that you -do/did- beat your wife. It's the "false dichotomy". If you do one thing, you must therefore do the other. Because I don't worship in God does not mean I worship the devil/Satan. That would be your belief, cthia, not mine. If I don't worship one aspect of your religion, do not assume the rest of it fits either. Last edited by Zakharra on Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
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TN4994
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Possibilities: No God One God Two or more Gods. Nature The Force A dream Et Al. |
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TN4994
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I get strange responses when I point out that the names Lucifer and Satan are not found in the Latin Vulgate. Also pointing out the hidden antisemitic interpretation of the english texts. |
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Imaginos1892
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TN4994 is right. There is no way Albert Einstein would ever have said something so absolutely stupid. Riots, looting, arson, robbery, rape and murder are all deeds of active evil that can never be derived from any sort of passive "absence of good". It would be less inaccurate to describe "good" as an "absence of evil".
Of course, but I require real, verifiable evidence before I will go so far as to actively believe it. On the other hand, if presented with real evidence that your god does not exist, I will be much less open to the idea. I am open to the idea that artificial gravity and hyperspace are possible, but I won't believe those without evidence either.
BULLSHIT! Otherwise known, formally, as the "false dichotomy". Very disappointing; I thought you were better than that. I don't give a rat's ass about either one of them because I do not believe either one exists. Why would I "worship" something that does not exist? What I believe, and don't believe, does not fit into your narrow preconceptions. ----------------- Complex questions never have simple answers. Hell, most simple questions don't have simple answers. |
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