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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by Daryl   » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:20 pm

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Strange that those who get angry at being "disrespected" are usually those for whom it is reasonable to us to not respect.
Several disturbing US gun incidents in the past few days. A motorist staggering away from his wrecked car shot by police, and two women bystanders shot by police who were shooting at a minor miscreant on a crowded street.
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by pokermind   » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:17 am

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Daryl wrote:Strange that those who get angry at being "disrespected" are usually those for whom it is reasonable to us to not respect.
Several disturbing US gun incidents in the past few days. A motorist staggering away from his wrecked car shot by police, and two women bystanders shot by police who were shooting at a minor miscreant on a crowded street.


Want to see US police in bad action: http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/09/2 ... y-in-ohio/

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PS good cartoon:

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Just saying.
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by namelessfly   » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:33 pm

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After a regrettable incident in which a City of Portland police officer gravely wounded his wife in an obscenely brutal manner, the department needed to distribute Kevlar condoms to their officers so thatnthey could practice safe shotgun sex.


pokermind wrote:
Daryl wrote:Strange that those who get angry at being "disrespected" are usually those for whom it is reasonable to us to not respect.
Several disturbing US gun incidents in the past few days. A motorist staggering away from his wrecked car shot by police, and two women bystanders shot by police who were shooting at a minor miscreant on a crowded street.


Want to see US police in bad action: http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/09/2 ... y-in-ohio/

Poker

PS good cartoon:

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Just saying.
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by pokermind   » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:22 am

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More experimental evidence guns don't kill people:

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Of course our President wishes to arm Muslim Zealots who recently murdered a young girl slowly using a hand saw perhaps so they can humanly shoot those who disagree with them. Of interest most of the recent mass murders have been registered democrats. Perhaps we should ban democrats rather than guns? Oh, that pesky Constitution again allowing the people freedom of speech and assembly ;)

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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by namelessfly   » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:59 am

namelessfly

Donnachaidh wrote:I'm not going to bother with replying to anything you said namelessfly, you've shown that you still do not bother to treat anyone who disagrees with you with any sort of respect.

If you're still willing to say things like this (PM namelessfly sent me Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:41 pm):
namelessfly wrote:Your arguments would be more persuasive and interesting if they were not delusional.


Then you'll be banned again soon enough, I doubt you'll get another chance since you're just squandering your second one.



I confess that I can be vulgar and disrespectful at times. However; I have no doubt that I will inevitably be banned no matter how polite I am because people like you will complain to Duckk whenever I disagree with them and Duckk will allow his own personal prejudices to influence his judgement on who is out of line.

Your original point that Reagan's deregulation of banking during the 1980s caused the mortgage meltdown of 2008 is illogical. Mortgage default rates remained very low during the Reagan, Bush 1 and even the Clinton presidencies. More importantly, the defaults were overwhelmingly the result in profound changes in the debtor's circumstances that prevented them from paying rather than a debt to income ratio that was excessive from the beginning. It wasn't until the
Banks allowed themselves to be extorted into granting Trillions of $$$$ in NINJA loans to Obama's constituents that the system was primed to explode.

I will concede that the merger mania of the 1990s (Clinton era) encouraged bankers to submit to pressure from Government officials to to do stupid things. The excessive mergers also resulted in banks that were deemed "to big to fail" so they got bailouts.

As Governor Palin once remarked, "to big to fail" = "to big to be permitted to exist".
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by pokermind   » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:57 am

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Adolf Hitler had Joseph Goebbels

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Now Obama has Dianne Feinstein!


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Senator Feinstein not satisfied with attacking the Second Amendment to the Constitution moves on to the First Amendment. Goes to show Obama and democrats hate freedom and liberty and HOPE to CHANGE America into a TOTALITARIAN ONE PARTY COUNTRY!

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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by thinkstoomuch   » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:38 am

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Just a story I ran across on Fox:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/11/ ... p=HPBucket

I had already read about the rules changes for the Neighborhood watch. Which makes all kinds of sense until you think about them. Then I am not so sure.

But even though it is Fox follow some of the links. In particular this one:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr ... r_2012.xls

Of course that is for all murders not just gun murders but ... I find it unsurprising. In a lot of ways.

I did look up the FL numbers for concealed carry permits and they are accurate.

Really wish I didn't have to verify all the stuff but I have learned that I need to.

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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by Invictus   » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:48 am

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Re the ongoing financial meltdown, found an interesting link for you all. Now, before flaming me down, bear in mind I'm Australian, and therefore as close to neutral as can be found on these forums :D
http://mises.org/daily/6574/How-the-Fed ... Easy-Money

So basically it was during the KENNEDY administration that the ball started rolling...
And while we're at it, the reason that the US dollar went of the gold standard? The US Federal reserve was refusing to allow outside audits of itself, and was basically printing more money than it had gold for. Other folks (like France) realised that the US was spending far more than it should be able to by funding a war in Vietnam as well as implementing a broad array of welfare measures. So they did what any sane person does when they think the bank is spending money it doesn't have; They pulled all of their deposits out! And demanded the gold their deposits were valued at. Bear in mind that this took place during the NIXON administration, so its not a democrat versus republican thing.

Is bipartisan buggery a phrase? It should be. :x

Oh, and back on the topic of guns, you all may find this interesting...
http://mises.org/daily/6552/Gun-Prohibi ... d-for-Guns

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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by PeterZ   » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:45 pm

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Which doesn't bode well for the US now. That excess printing in the 60's led to very high inflation in the 70's. If that timing is any indicator, we should start seeing inflation sometime soon.

Looks like we will see wonething worse than the 70's.

Invictus wrote:Re the ongoing financial meltdown, found an interesting link for you all. Now, before flaming me down, bear in mind I'm Australian, and therefore as close to neutral as can be found on these forums :D
http://mises.org/daily/6574/How-the-Fed ... Easy-Money

So basically it was during the KENNEDY administration that the ball started rolling...
And while we're at it, the reason that the US dollar went of the gold standard? The US Federal reserve was refusing to allow outside audits of itself, and was basically printing more money than it had gold for. Other folks (like France) realised that the US was spending far more than it should be able to by funding a war in Vietnam as well as implementing a broad array of welfare measures. So they did what any sane person does when they think the bank is spending money it doesn't have; They pulled all of their deposits out! And demanded the gold their deposits were valued at. Bear in mind that this took place during the NIXON administration, so its not a democrat versus republican thing.

Is bipartisan buggery a phrase? It should be. :x

Oh, and back on the topic of guns, you all may find this interesting...
http://mises.org/daily/6552/Gun-Prohibi ... d-for-Guns
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Re: Guns, Guns Guns
Post by namelessfly   » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:20 pm

namelessfly

I really recommend consulting this on line tool to access the FBI - SHR data over the last three decades. It is not as sophisticated as having the actual SHRs which are nearly 1,000 pages long but you can customize data searches.

Keep in mind that the data on known offenders is limited by the very low clearance rates in the US which are extremely low for homicides that cant be attributed to family and known associates but also for Blacks.

The data for homicides by multiple offenders is very revealing. Multiple offender homicides are by definition conspiracies. In the case of interacial homicides, such homicides by multiple offenders are potentially racist conspiracies.

Of course comparing the number of homicides by 17 year old Black males of 28 year old white males to the number of homicides by 28 year old White males of 17 year old Black males is very problematic for the mainstream media and the Black Grivance Industry.

thinkstoomuch wrote:Just a story I ran across on Fox:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/11/ ... p=HPBucket

I had already read about the rules changes for the Neighborhood watch. Which makes all kinds of sense until you think about them. Then I am not so sure.

But even though it is Fox follow some of the links. In particular this one:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr ... r_2012.xls

Of course that is for all murders not just gun murders but ... I find it unsurprising. In a lot of ways.

I did look up the FL numbers for concealed carry permits and they are accurate.

Really wish I didn't have to verify all the stuff but I have learned that I need to.

Have fun,
T2M
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