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Question: Mesan/Monican plan to take the Lynx Terminus

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Re: Question: Mesan/Monican plan to take the Lynx Terminus
Post by kzt   » Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:52 pm

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Equipment that has been delivered but is stored for later install is typically still transport packaged and totally powered down. You really don't want ordinance that you are shipping to decide that a handling bump means that it should blow up right now, or for your new computer system to decide that the installer taking off the access panel to install it is an attack and it should melt itself.
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Re: Question: Mesan/Monican plan to take the Lynx Terminus
Post by Relax   » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:14 pm

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kzt wrote:Equipment that has been delivered but is stored for later install is typically still transport packaged and totally powered down. You really don't want ordinance that you are shipping to decide that a handling bump means that it should blow up right now, or for your new computer system to decide that the installer taking off the access panel to install it is an attack and it should melt itself.


For shipping explosives, detonators are NEVER packaged with the explosive. NEVER.
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Re: Question: Mesan/Monican plan to take the Lynx Terminus
Post by Armed Neo-Bob   » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:19 pm

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Relax wrote:
kzt wrote:Equipment that has been delivered but is stored for later install is typically still transport packaged and totally powered down. You really don't want ordinance that you are shipping to decide that a handling bump means that it should blow up right now, or for your new computer system to decide that the installer taking off the access panel to install it is an attack and it should melt itself.


For shipping explosives, detonators are NEVER packaged with the explosive. NEVER.


Never handled anything large; but 81mm mortar rounds came in ammo crates; 3 rounds in each case. They were in a sealed cylindar of cardboard, wrapped in a sort of nylon-tar-waxy stuff for weatherproofing. Get them out of that, and they had a "shipping ring" --sort of horseshoe shaped-- that set in a groove near the nose; they also had a wire that went into the round and then wrapped around it (safety clip); and finally, the round wasn't supposed to be armed until fired--it was supposed to spin 17 revolutions or some such after those two safeties were removed.

This is relatively small stuff, but note that there are three different safety measures taken.

In Tikrit, a rocket impacted the building where Gen. Toludo had the 42nd HQ. Minor damage only: the people who launched it had left the shipping ring in, I was told.

Since the ACE where I was working was in the same building, I was happy.

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Re: Question: Mesan/Monican plan to take the Lynx Terminus
Post by kzt   » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:27 pm

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Armed Neo-Bob wrote:Never handled anything large; but 81mm mortar rounds came in ammo crates; 3 rounds in each case. They were in a sealed cylindar of cardboard, wrapped in a sort of nylon-tar-waxy stuff for weatherproofing. Get them out of that, and they had a "shipping ring" --sort of horseshoe shaped-- that set in a groove near the nose; they also had a wire that went into the round and then wrapped around it (safety clip); and finally, the round wasn't supposed to be armed until fired--it was supposed to spin 17 revolutions or some such after those two safeties were removed.

This is relatively small stuff, but note that there are three different safety measures taken.

In Tikrit, a rocket impacted the building where Gen. Toludo had the 42nd HQ. Minor damage only: the people who launched it had left the shipping ring in, I was told.

Since the ACE where I was working was in the same building, I was happy.

As I said in several other threads, people who build and handle things that go bang really want and work hard to ensure that any possible failure of a weapon are where it goes clunk when you expect it to go bang rather then failures were the weapon goes bang when you expect it to go clunk. This usually results in a noticeable number of duds, but that is OK under the circumstances.
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